Since the beginning of the Covid madness We've been shopping in the supermarket with out masks and now we have to wear them if it was safe to shop with no mask at the hight of the thing why make us wear them now when it's more than obvious that Covid is on the way out,
100% agree. An absurd, backward, ignorant decision that will shatter confidence, just as people were starting to regain some. WTF is wrong with this control freakery Govt? I despair.
Has anyone thought of the security implications if you work in a betting shop bank subpostoffice or jewelers some one entering warring a face covering is a threat as the economy gose free fall crime rises and CCTV will be useless because everyone Will be wearing masks because you have to to go shopping
I've read the legislation (yes, I'm sad in that regard 😜) and you are *not* required to wear a mask in banks, building societies, pubs, restaurants etc. Who knew that the virulence of SARS-CoV-2 was dependent on the type of commercial premises in which you happen to find yourself? Of course, we here know this has nothing to do with that marvellous unicorn 'the science'. I believe it's simply more arse-covering from our awful government. They *know* the '2nd wave' is simply not going to happen, and when that transpires their incompetence will be further exposed. Hence the mandatory mask edict - when the '2nd wave' fails to materialise they'll claim it was due to the success of the mask policy, and hope it affords them a little credibility. Which, in the minds (if one can call an empty space a 'mind') of the sheeple, it probably will.
You have it precisely right; this is designed to make it harder to see that lock down achieved nothing. I also believe Johnson has no underlying principles and is therefore blown about by perceived public opinion: he hears that 2/3 of the population want masks so that what he does. He has an instinct for being and staying popular.
Good piece in Spiked about compulsory masks:
https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/14/muzzling-the-public/
Another good one on masks from Andrew Lawrence. Contains language:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=aeKdh4gt00A
Any ideas for a mask that might pass for a mask but does nothing whatsoever? Ideally a hologram, and I did think of painting my mouth. I also thought of getting some netting to create a kind of virgin's veil? The other option is the street cred bandana or a clunky visa and, for the other extreme, there is humour in a Darth Vador helmet. Experience in Scotland gives an example of simply not wearing one unless explicitly asked to. Seriously this government is hell bent on demeaning us, and what can you do when the majority of the population are taken in by this hysteria - just when we thought we could go out and play.
Having a mask made of netting would nicely point out the absurdity of it all. For malicious compliance I considered getting a mask and punching holes in it. If we are to believe a cotton mask or scarf is equally as effective as a surgical grade mask then where is the line drawn?
I made a mask out of a floor cloth, which has a very loose weave and in terms of stopping virus particles is about as much use as a condom in a convent. Wore it for the first time a couple of days ago as I was asked too, and it kept the shop assistant happy. I live in Scotland and this was the first time in 2 weeks of mandatory mask wearing that I'd been asked to wear one. Similar to a virgin's veil, you could try a midge or mosquito hood, available from most outdoor gear shops. These cover the whole head, but are see through so clearly useless at stopping viruses. The other option when asked to wear a mask is to politely say that you prefer to take your dignity, human rights, and most importantly your money elsewhere.
Has a mask specification actually been stipulated?
I do like the idea of a design expressing one's objection to all this. A link to where this can be purchased would be appreciated.
Not that I plan to be wearing one much.
All of a sudden outdoor markets & online shopping seem very appealing!
I'm with you there if I have to wear a dambed mask hell it's going to be the most inappropriate one I can find!!
The only stipulation is that the mask covers your moth and nose. So, feel free to be creative in how you choose to mock this stinking pile of legislative ordure. Or, read the legislation carefully and ask yourself the question: do I have a 'health condition' that would grant me exemption? The scope of 'health condition' is extremely broad and, under the Equalities Act 2010, you're under no obligation to disclose your 'health condition' to any third party (including Plod), nor do they have any authority to demand that you do so. For example, if being forced to wear a mask would cause distress or anxiety you have an exemption. If any restriction of your ability to breathe would exacerbate an existing health condition, you have an exemption. And so on.
I am personally thinking of doing the 'bank robber', by wearing an old pair of my wife's tights. If I really want to take the piss I will go for the fishnets.
Someone on Lockdown Sceptics posted a link to a UK site selling this kind of thing at sensible prices. The one making reference to Orwell appealed to me.
Unfortunately I can't seem to find it now. Think it was sometime last week.
The most charitable explanation for the mask legislation is that it's an attempt to encourage people to go out and shop, which so far they've been reluctant to do, in an attempt to "save" the economy.
This is (to me) a slightly less disturbing option than the government genuinely thinking a "second wave" is a possibility, or as another stopgap measure (like local lockdowns) to keep the narrative (that they have made the right decisions and are "following the science") going for as long as possible.
But I'm very sceptical that it will work, if anything it will create a more fearful and less relaxing shopping atmosphere. Certainly many people, and not just the genuinely vulnerable, are fearful of infection, but I think a lot of people, and not just confirmed sceptics/realists like us, are more put off by the regulations, red tape, enforced distancing and queues than by Covid, even without having to wear a mask!
Another point, a newspaper headline (can't remember the paper) on Monday said something on the lines of "the regulations won't come into force until the 24th, raising the possibility that coronavirus will spread before then". More likely by then, daily deaths in England will be in single figures! Not that this will change anything, if the media pay attention to it at all the message will be along the lines of "this shows it's all the more important to stay alert and avoid a second wave, rather than undo the progress we've made")
On a lighter note, this made me laugh when I saw it back in May:
https://www.corona24.news/c/2020/05/20/the-deputy-from-servants-of-the-people-came-to-rada-in-a-knitted-mask.html
I have a "hidden disability" lanyard but otherwise would be tempted to learn knitting and make one of the above.
I fear mandatory masks are here until they find a vaccine. then the lovely Mr Hancock can tell us how lucky we are that we can take our muzzles off, providing, of course, we all allow Mr Gates to inject us with his toxic crap.
I think the only way out of this is to persuade the retailers that they will lose business if the enforce it. I also believe they may be liable if they do enforce it and you become ill even if it is mandatory by law but someone with a legal background would need to look into this. If it were true then you could possibly frighten the retailers enough with the threat of potential lawsuits that they wouldn't enforce it.
I fully intend to hold a shooping basket onto my face. It is a face covering so legal for me to go shopping in.
A quick thankyou email to shops not enforcing the rule might be a good idea. Sadly I think shops not enforcing the rules will get quite a few complaints from bedwetting do- gooders. If anyone works in a shop, or knows someone who does, it would be interesting to hear what kind of feedback shops are getting.
I have been to three shops today. No mask was forced on me. But I had to say that they make breathing difficult in one shop to allow me to buy cheese, which is, of course true.
News on UK public transport - train Hull to Doncaster. Doncaster to London. Tube to Earls Court. Taxi driver home to station unmasked (but had one in case passenger requested) normal chatty journey. Two burley 'police community support officers' patrolling the local train. Where's your mask? Hidden disability card deployed. not friendly. A few unmasked. Young children masked playing on screens. Doncaster station mostly masked. Train to London quiet. No ticket checker, no mask enforcer. No conversation! Got on tube (4 in carriage). got out again Completely unchallenged. DFDS ferry to Calais had to all be wearing masks to drive up ramp in car! France open market today almost normal except in shops which are hysterical.
I'm noticing a disturbing trend in these parts (Cambs) of more & more folk wearing masks outdoors.
Even in these hot & humid conditions.
They can't all be the virtue brigade ,so assume there are many who are still very scared?
The latest disgrace has to be the Premier Academy school introducing mandatory masks for all pupils this coming term.
You can write them a message to complain at tpamk.co.uk/contact.html
I predict that mask wearing will become a permanent feature of life even after Covid. Anyone visiting Hong Kong during the last 19 years will have seen that wearing masks has become a regular habit among the population there following the SARS panic. Does anyone really believe that a day will come when Hancock or anyone in Government will declare that they are no longer necessary? My guess is that they will continue to recommend them as a protection against flu and even the common cold!
Great idea!
Nearly the end of the year and the muzzling continues - indoors, outdoors, everywheredoors. Christmas Day - I met with friends in a spacious suburban London park.
Sunny, dry, freezing cold - ideal for a walk and chatter but this has to be the weirdest Christmas morning I've witnessed. Probably half of those out in the fresh air were muzzled - mums, dads, kids (even toddlers) - this on Christmas Day.
Expect some of 'em had discovered their brand new face-masks amongst the presents under the tree that morning. The perfect gift; hard to show disappointment once strapped in it.
The readiness of so manyh to comply and continue to comply with the wretched muzzling mandates was and still is one of the most horrifying aspects of this period. It will, I think, never be officially ended - only a public realisation that the face, the bearer of our expressions allowing full and subtle communication with people is necessary.